Debra Geileskey, Helidon, Toowoomba, Australia,
1983 –1993 (The Magnificat Meal Movement)
Status:
Established as Not Supernatural (Constat de non Supernaturalitate)
Episcopal Remarks: “it can only be concluded that the alleged
apparitions associated with the Magnificat Meal Movement are devoid of any
supernatural origin. The writings published by the Movement itself also lead
to the inevitable conclusion that it neither had, nor desires, any place in the
Catholic Church” (Statements by the
Catholic Bishops of Queensland, March 3, 2000); “the claims of Debra Geilesky…have increasingly become more at
variance with Catholic faith, practice and spirituality” (ibid) “Catholic
people should disassociate themselves from the Magnificat meal Movement saying
"All this constitutes a clear danger to many good people”. In light of the
Vatican statements I still declare that the Magnificat Meal Movement is not of
God.” (William M Morris, DD, Bishop of Toowoomba, An Open Letter
Concerning the Magnificat Meal Movement, July 19, 1999); “On the basis of all the information
available it can only be concluded that the alleged apparitions associated
with the Magnificat Meal Movement are devoid of any supernatural origin. The
writings published by the Movement itself also lead to the inevitable
conclusion that it neither has, nor desires, any place in the Catholic Church”
(William M Morris, DD, Bishop of Toowoomba, Declaration Concerning The
Magnificat Meal Movement in the Diocese of Toowoomba, February 11, 1999); “It
is misleading, to say the least, that these attitudes should be presented as
inspired by Our Blessed Lady. None of this can come from a good source. All of
this constitutes a clear danger to many good people” (Secretary of the
Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Letter to William M Morris,
DD, Bishop of Toowoomba, January 12, 1999) (See Documentation
Here)
Corroboration by
Other Seers:
Biographical Information: The Magnificat Meal Movement (MMM) was established as a breakaway Catholic community in 1992 by self-styled prophet, Ms Debra Geileskey, an ex-teacher who has claimed to see visions of Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary at the organisation’s Helidon headquarters (formerly a Catholic convent), about 60 miles from Melbourne in Australia. Debra Geileskey solemnly told her followers in the Magnificat Meal Movement that not only had she been chosen as God’s messenger but that the Lord had instructed her to follow the diet of the Eucharist. Over 14 months, the MMM leader claimed to have consumed nothing but "holy" wafers and water, except on 33 days when God told her she could eat normally. The aims of the Movement are to promote Eucharistic Adoration and the honour of the Blessed Mother in all her titles, but especially as Mary, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix of all God's graces and Advocate. Debra holds a special devotion to virginity and her favourite saint after the Virgin Mary is a 13-year-old girl who died earlier this century protecting her honour from a rapist. "I like to take in young girls, to protect their virginity," she says. For many supporters the residents' lives of prayer, fasting, penance and loving obedience to the Holy Father are an inspiring example, as is the reverence at Mass and the various ceremonies.
The Movement's founder, Mrs Debra Geilesky, has been subjected to continual persecution, including attempts on her life, since she started to boldly proclaim the revelations of Our Lord. Despite, and probably because of these persecutions, the Movement has flourished and now boasts an international following of thousands of members in 70 countries including Ireland, where there are at least 300 members. Many of these are reported to be priests and Bishops from all around the world. Although the continuous persecution is evidence for some Mariologists like Fr Rene Laurentin, that the movement is authentic the organisation is not without its critics. MMM described as a “cult” by Rome and dubbed by critics as “Make More More Money” is known to run 10 companies and have accumulated property assets worth AUS $3.5 million. Indeed those who decamp to the Helidon base describe it as the “New Jerusalem” Whilst some of the movement's members dress in habits and describe themselves as “slaves of the Eucharist” following strict prayer regimes the community leaders have been criticized for indulging a high roller’s lifestyle of regular trips to America and chauffeur driven Mercedes cars with matching number plates. Geileskey claims plans to raise AUS$ 45 million from her members donations and charitable acquisitions to construct a basilica which she says will coincide with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
More controversially Mrs Geileskey reveals beliefs in a global conspiracy; that a Jewish group controlled world power through an underground, unholy alliance with Masonic Orders. According to Mrs Geileskey "Jews masquerading as Christians are responsible for modernism in the Catholic Church". This contamination of the Church, she says, spills over into the New Mass. Not only is it invalid, she claims, but those who attend it are committing a mortal sin. The society has responded by attending only Latin Tridentine Masses celebrated by Traditionalist priests. She also refers to the 'sins of Paul', by which she means the entire programme of liturgical reform carried out by the Second Vatican Council under Pope Paul VI. For Geileskey the Conciliar Church is being used by subversive anti-Catholic forces to promote a false ecumenical Religion of universal brotherhood with the world and as such she refers to it as the “Whore of Babylon” as detailed in the Apocalypse. The latest sign of this movement away from the Conciliar Church is that they now bury their dead in the Helidon public cemetery, rather than attend a Catholic Funeral Mass and bury them in the Catholic cemetery nearby.
Known to some as an apocalyptic traditionalist remnant and to others as a cultic sect, the MMM has been accused of everything from planning mass suicides, to hypnotically brainwashing its members. Things evidently started to go downhill in 1996 when Mrs Geilesky published an undated prophecy detailing her own burning at the stake by a Catholic priest in the manner of St Joan of Arc. After her estranged husband reportedly embellished the vision with apocalyptic overtones, generalising it to the whole community and a millenial fulfillment date of the ninth day of the ninth month of the year 1999, the local government authorities, police and media decided that this was a remote sign of a mass doomsday suicide pact. Fortunately the envisaged “Waco showdown” never came to pass. Whilst the relationship of the MMM with the Catholic hierarchy continues to deteriorate since the negative findings of Bishop Morris’s theolgical commission in 1997, reports have been made that the marathon fasts of its leader Mrs Geileskey include secret eating binges, amid fraudulent Eucharistic miracles, and rampant religious deception. The organisation is presently being sued for refusing to repay a $600,000 loan by a wealthy promoter of the “Our Lady of Soufanieh” apparitions and Geileskey’s estranged husband Gordon now denounces her as a fraud. What has emerged since has been described as an incredible story of religious fervour involving court battles, internal power struggles, questionable property deals and traumatic defections that have rocked the Movement.
The
Messages
Jesus,
January 1, 1985
“Hide
here, little flower. in My Heart. Behold the beauty of My Sacred Heart. Lift your
head above your enemies and let Our Two Hearts (Jesus and Mary) entwine with
yours, echoing forth the prayer of the Hearts who love and glorify Our Father.
Let your heart pray this prayer as Mine does with true love: Our Father, who is
in heaven, Your Name is holy, Your kingdom come, Your Will be done on earth as
it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our sins as we
forgive those who sin against us. Lead us away from all temptation and deliver
us from all evil. Amen.” 1
Jesus,
December 8, 1987
“I
will use you to announce with a quiet voice the reign of the antichrist's
beginning. It will be a time very soon, when the sacrifice of the Sacred Mass
is no longer sacred to many. The horrible sacrilege will be man himself,
exalted, replacing Me at My altars as the gods. They will at that time remove
Me from My Tabernacle-Thrones. Quietly and together, We will sweep a Movement
of the fire of My Holy Spirit (later proved to be the Magnificat Meal Movement
International) across all nations to rectify the neglect of Me as fully God,
alive with you in the Eucharist. It will be a Movement that gathers an adoring
and obedient remnant away from the antichrist and his alterations of My House
and My Sacrifice (the Mass). Tabernacles will be torn down. Sacred statues will
be destroyed. The Mass will be altered and in many places terminated, leaving
echoing barns with wordy ceremonies in the place of My Sanctuaries. Together We
will build a Basilica of Eucharistic adoration, to which My frightened flock
will flee from all nations. The antichrist will appear, at that time, to have
removed Me as the eternal sacrifice, but My remnant Movement will bring forth a
small obedient flock who will not adore the horrible sacrilege of man himself
on My altars .” 2
Jesus,
September 7, 1993
“Receive
Me in your hands because you have My Holy Spirit. I who am God have humbled Myself in this form (the
Eucharist). Again I allow Myself to be
handled by mankind. Hold Me. Carry Me.
Embrace Me. For I who am Almighty
have humbled Myself for love of thee. I desire you to touch Me and I will daily
reignite you. Receive Me daily. Teach
others to receive Me in love. Teach
others to handle Me lovingly and reverently.
Be humble as I am humble. Allows
others to handle your life too. I am
Jesus the Son of God and the Son of Man.” Debra says: “O Jesus I love to hold
You in the Eucharist. Grant me the grace to always handle You reverently. Many people believe it to be sinful to
receive Communion in the hands. Thank
You for making this clear to me.” “It is not sinful to receive Me on the hands.
It is the heart I read. If a heart receives Me lovingly with faith in My True
Presence as the Meal, then both the heart and the hands are washed in My Holy
Blood. My Blood washes such hands as
these whiter than snow. Hands so
covered with My Blood receive Me most worthily. It is those hands that do not have My Spirit and My Blood upon
them which grieve Me.I hear many who order others about telling them how they
MUST receive Me in a particular way. Be
cautious not to be drawn into ordering My people. To those who ask share what I have said to you today.” 3
Jesus,
September 9, 1993
“Come
and receive Me in My Eucharistic Form. Receive Me daily - and more often as I lead.
I have made your soul to hunger greatly for Me, your Divine Meal.” 4
Jesus,
November 7, 1993
“A
man told you yesterday that you did not need to genuflect at Communion as the
Holy Spirit is with you. I was pleased to hear you say that you would continue
to do it, daughter. I sent your angels to show you how to reverence My Presence
in this way. Your genuflection is a sign to the world that 1 am truly present.
Each time My people pass the Tabernacle and genuflect, I bless them and rejoice
over them as on a festival day. (Zeph. 3:17) Encourage others to reverence My
Holy Presence (in the Eucharist) with an act of devotion. This can be a
genuflection, a sign of the Cross or kneeling before Me. Each may choose that
which suits him for I am easily pleased by a loving heart that believes in My
True Presence.” 5
December
22, 1993
“The
concelebrating priests also had many angels around them whilst they held the
Eucharist. I tried to count the angels and God said that it would be
impossible. He again pointed out that the angels are in huge numbers at each
Mass and that we should adore Him with awesome reverence during Mass like the
angels do.” 6
Jesus,
March 8, 1994
“Nothing
can replace or surpass this essential core of worship. It is here that you offer Me your greatest
sacrifice of praise – Myself. It is
here that I, your Everlasting Father, give you the True Meal of life” 7
Jesus,
March 18, 1994
“Even
the smallest grain which falls from the Eucharist has the complete nature of
the perfect sacrifice. You have
underestimated My Sacrifice mankind.” 8
Jesus,
May 30, 1994
“Receiving
Me both morning and night is well advised for you, My little flower of the
Eucharist.” 9
April
5, 1995
“The
words, 'Hail Mary, full of grace,' were of such heavenly greatness that the
Almighty Father sent His heavenly messenger to proclaim them in the world. Honor these words also by continually
praying this prayer (the Hail Mary) which brings honor to the Holy Trinity of
God. Continue to say this Trinitarian prayer, (the Hail Mary) in the way the
Lord has asked, for these end times of rejoicing (46) i.e. Rejoice, O Holy
Mary, for you are full of grace, and the Lord is with you. Blessed are you
among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of
God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.” 10
Jesus,
May 6, 1995
"Dearest
little one, you experience the pain of division in My Body. My Own Heart is rent over the division and
lack of faith of those who do not believe that I am fully present in the
Eucharist….As soon as I gave this Sacrament to My Church, division began to
arise in souls who failed to accept the Divine Meal nature of this Sacrament of
My Love….This, My Magnificat Meal Movement, is My Spirit rectifying this
division in My Body….I am your Divine Meal, mankind, and it will be the
Eucharist which will both unite and divide. Your mouths take the Divine Bread.
Your hearts and souls receive Me, the Eternal Food of Grace.” 11
Jesus,
June 6, 1995
“The
breakaway groups (i.e. new churches down through the ages which have broken
away from the `Rock of Peter—adds Debra) seek to dissipate faith in Me and My
Presence with you in the Eucharistic Host. This Movement (the Magnificat Meal
Movement International) is My Own Action to rectify this neglect of Me in the
Eucharist. I am not just a symbol or a remembrance. I am Fully Present, as the
Divine Meal from Heaven in each Sacred Mass.
My people, you have done so little to stop this false thinking about Me
in the Eucharist as a fellowship meal. I am the Divine Meal. I have chosen the
Magnificat Meal Movement as My Own Movement to bring back awareness of My
Divine Nature in the Eucharist to your confused minds” 12
Jesus,
June 19, 1994
“Some
I call invitingly to offer the sacrifice of the Mass both morning and
night. This is your need too. Return to this practice of attending the
Holy Mass at the beginning and close of each day.” 13
Jesus,
June 27, 1995
“by
adoring Me in the Sacrament of Myself, exposed in all My Divinity and Humanity
on your altars.” 14
July 2, 1995
“Dear
child, tell My children not to read those newspapers which are freemasons’, but
in fact claim to be Catholic”, Debra
sees and comments a vision in which she says: They are reading some scripture,
but I hear the angels say they are using a twisted understanding of the
scriptures (just like the freemasons do).
I understood that people should use true scripture to discern. Those who don’t will be more easily deceived
by ecclesiastical freemasons who use the scripture in a warped manner to lead
souls to hell.” 15
Jesus,
July 4, 1995
“My
Heart is now calling all souls to come share this sweet companionship with my
Son, a companionship of paradise, available to you now in the Sweetest Bread of
the Blessed Sacrament, my Son (God fully in the Eucharistic Bread—Debra
added).” 16
July
7, 1995
“The
use of various scripture versions that I use with you is a sign to a divided
humanity. A sign of unity that only I can perfect. Surrender, mankind, your many differences and I will make you one
in Me” 17
Our
Lady, June 19, 1999
“O
grieved is my heart when the Body of Christ was torn from the Sacred Mass at
the command of the ‘Novus Ordo.’ Adore
the truly consecrated Sacred Sacrament.
Too many adore the Bread unconsecrated due to the horrible sin of so
many priests and false priests. Heaven
can remain silent about this atrocious sin against the Mass no longer.This is
not a Mass but Paul’s sin. And my
Divine Son’s Body is not present.I am crying for my betrayed and starving
children…Heaven can remain silent about this atrocious sin against the Mass no
longer. This is not a Mass but Paul’s
sin. And my Divine Son’s Body is not present…but My remnant Movement will bring
forth a small obedient flock who will not adore the horrible sacrilege of man
himself on My altars .” 18
Undated
“After
Mass and Rosary an old lady angrily told me 1 prayed the Hail Mary wrongly. I told
her my angel taught me how to pray this prayer as a sign of the end time people
of God being a rejoicing people, united to Our Lady, as in the book of
Revelations. She became angrier and accused me of being against the Pope and a
division in the Church, when I heard the Lord say sadly: It is ones, like this
soul, who fill My Sanctuary with their self-righteous division, which caused My
Wounds. and continue to scourge Me. I weep. I bleed…Colossians 2:8 "See to
it, then, that no one enslaves you by means of the worthless deceit of human
wisdom, which comes from the teachings handed down by men and from the ruling
spirits of the universe, and not from Christ.” 19
Undated
“St
John Vianney said: You have cried out to God for more priests to help you in
the work that God has given you to do in gathering souls away from sin into the
light around the Eucharist. Our
Heavenly Father is allowing you to minister to his priests with your
suffering…” Debra then said a few words, and Mary said : “My priest is with you
( St John Vianney). He will use your
suffering to minister to those priests in need. Allow him to anoint your hands and your side.” Debra continued: “St John Vianney anointed me with holy oils.” 20
Undated
“Debra
says: You are my God. I will give You praise O my God. You are my Saviour. The
reply: You are a priest in the line of Melchizedek (Debra adds: i.e Melchizedek
was not an ordained priest but because of his love for God and his unending
adoration of God, he was accepted as priestly and as an identifying sign of the
coming of the humble Priest of priests, Jesus Christ. We are all invited to fulfil the “priesthood of ministering
adoration to God” as Melckizedek did)
for you have My identity. With My Divine Identity you also share in My role of ministering
to God the Father and to the Church with your loving adorat'ron of reparation.
I am Jesus, the Son of God and the Son of Man. Take My Identity. I will he your
Shield. I will be your Armour. Put on the Full Armour of My Blood and share.
fully in My Role.” 21
References
1.
Morning Prayers (booklet for the MMM), 1997, 22 pages p.2
2.
What God might say to Me today…in Australia. Diary 8 with extracts from Diary 9
and earlier diaries. A series of
Reflection with Debra. First Edition,
1996, 450 pages. p.116-117 quoting Diary 1, 8th December, 1987
3.
ibid p.63-64
4.ibid
, p.98
5.ibid
p.168
6.
Debra and the Eucharist, by Ray Burke (a member of the Slaves of the Eucharist,
founded by Debra), Nov. 1999, 40 pages, p.18, quoting Diary 6 p.46)
7. Holy Mass (The Tridentine Mass in English with some
slight changes and additions as it is used in the MMM.) 1999, 22 pages, p.2;
Debra and the Eucharist, by Ray Burke (a member of the Slaves of the Eucharist,
founded by Debra), Nov. 1999, 40 pages, p.9 quoting Diary 6, p.287-8)
8. Debra and the
Eucharist, by Ray Burke (a member of the Slaves of the Eucharist, founded by
Debra), Nov. 1999, 40 pages. p.18, quoting Diary 6, p.312
9.ibid , p.10,
quoting D7,p.84
10. What God might
say to Me today … in Australia, Diary 8 with extracts from Diary 9 and earlier
diaries. A series of Reflection with
Debra. First Edition, 1996, 450 pages, p.182, 5th April, 1995 p. 182
11. ibid p. 211-212
12. ibid p.257-258
13. Debra and the
Eucharist, by Ray Burke (a member of the Slaves of the Eucharist, founded by
Debra), Nov. 1999, 40 pages, p.10, quoting D7, p.109-110
14. What God might
say to Me today … in Australia Diary 8
with extracts from Diary 9 and earlier diaries. A series of Reflection with Debra. First Edition, 1996, 450 pages, p.284
15. ibid
16. ibid p.295
17. ibid p.302
18. Holy Mass (The Tridentine Mass in English with some
slight changes and additions as it is used in the MMM.) 1999, 22 pages, p.1-2
19. What God might
say to Me today … in Australia Diary 8 with
extracts from Diary 9 and earlier diaries.
A series of Reflection with Debra.
First Edition, 1996, 450 pages, p.279
20. ibid p.243-244
21. ibid p.294